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The ultimate church leadership, church planting conference speaking team that I would like to see, be at.

My list of speakers: Greg Laurie, Francis Chan, Ed Stetzer, Steve Trimmis, Tim Chester, Tim Keller, Loren Cunningham, Matthew and Tommy Barnett, John MacArthur and Chuck Smith.

Why:

Greg Laurie – Harvest church
Started his church as a home bible study age the of 19, now it’s a church of 15,000. Has done the Heaviest Crusades for over 15 years with over 500,000 salvations to its credit. He knows evangelism and how church should be done, all about reaching the lost and making disciples and he can teach the word like no one else.

Francis Chan – Cornerstone Community Church
He has doing church right, understands it and is going for the biblical church we see in Acts. He amended his churches budget so that 50% everything they receive goes right back out the door to the poor, starving and missions. Gave up a $20 mil building and gave the money away instead. And can teach the word of God most excellent.

Ed Stetzer – LifeWay
He gets missional; he understands the church is not to just set there, it has a purpose, it is sent out. It is to be moving into the world for the sake of the Gospel.

Steve Timmis, Tim Chester – The Crowed House / Total Church
They get church is a community, how to be the church in its simplest and most organic from, a community on a mission for the sake of the gospel. If a church does not have community right, first, they do not have church.

Tim Keller – Redeemer
He gets the gospel is the center of everything, need I say more.

Loren Cunningham – Youth With A Mission
Founder of YWAM, nobody knows or understands missions or how to do it like him. Pastors can learn the urgency and necessity of missions being a priority of the church. The church need to send out both church planters and missionaries.

Pastors Matthew and Tommy Barnett – The Dream Center LA
They understand the churches roll in meeting both the physical and spiritual needs of the community, how to transform the city for the sake of the gospel, transforming the city, the whole person. They know God is about the redemption of all of creation, the whole person. They know how to take the church beyond the four walls.

John MacArthur – Grace Community Church
John is in the top 50 most influential Christians in the world (2008), not because his teaching tickles the ears and makes him popular. But because he knows how to study and teach the word of God without compromise to please man. He stands firm on the word of God, the gospel and biblical Jesus. He is on the short list of pastors left who know the word of God and actual teach the word of God. He is one to learn how to study and teach the word without compromise. He may be dated in some of his methodology, but he has the fundamentals and dedication that every pastor today needs.

Chuck Smith – Calvary Chapel
God changed the face of Christianity and how church is done through him. Calvary Chapel, Chuck Smith was the primary vehicle God use to fuel the Jesus movement that spread across the globe. He birthed the modern praise music we use, birthed Christian rock music. And the best estimates are that God added 10’s of millions (salvations) to the church directly or indirectly through Chuck. Calvary grew not like churches today by church transplants, but by new salvations, they baptized over 500 a month for 20+ years. What other living pastor can make such a claim? He knows what it is to be God’s man to change the world. Chuck understands rising up new leaders, Calvary sent over 1500 young pastors who planted new churches. When you count in the Vineyards, yes John Wimber came out of, start with Calvary Chapel that is anther 1500 that came out indirectly via Chuck Smith. He is also one of the most gifted bible teachers alive today. There are volume to be learned from this man, he is the likes of a Charles Spurgeon or D. L. Moody. you want to learn how to raise up leaders and send them out, he is your man.

This is just a buch of guys I would like to put together and hear their story, learn what they have learned from God. How they got to that place to be used by God. Even just a day with each of them, break some bread and talk would be great.

The problems I see with the multi-site church, why do I not like it, I feel it is moving the church totally in the wrong direction, away for community, more towards just being a show we put on.

1. It is continuing down the road to make church impersonal, a spectator event that you merely attend, in fact not even the pastor attends it.

2. Detrimental to creating and having community .

3. I think it puts in a dangerous territory of being really egotistic, it is saying that one pastor alone can do the job of pastor/teacher for the whole city, the state or even nation, so we must teleport him instead of sending out others God has called and gifted to be pastors.

4. Takes away the use of others in the body God has called to be church planters and pastors. So now what do we close all the seminaries now, becouse we no longer need to train pastors, we have no use for any more of them.

5. Isn’t this just turning the body into consumers, creating a pre-packaged product, mass produce it, franchise instead of a living organism lead and controlled by the Holy Spirit.

6. Removes the pastor from being over a flock, he has no personal contact or involvement with the people he is to pastor, in fact he does not even see their faces from the pulpit, because he is not even there.

7. Didn’t we just spend the last 5 years telling pastors the need to contextualize the gospel, their sermons to the culture and needs of their neighborhood? And now we are saying take the same message and broadcast it to every neighborhood and culture. Hum, very confusing.

Bottom line, does this really accomplish what the church is about, to be, when we look at scripture. How does anything Jesus did or we see in Acts even remotely look the same.

And what saddens me is the number one motive, justification I keep hearing in support of them is extreme profit, how much money can be made with them, that they are a great profit center. Since when is that what church is about.

(Read part 2, follow up posting.)

In a Idea Session (The Idea Camp ) the question was asked “How can the church
get focused on real relationship? How do we build bridges between the
pulpit?” That is how do we get community in our churches. What I contributed can be summed up in four lines, statements.

1. Community is not something we add to church, community is what church is, church comes out of community.

2. If community did not happen, church did not happen.

3. We have made church a spectator sport in America, we have trained People to come as consumer’s, as if they are going to Vegas to see a show, to come and have church put on for them, then go home. People do Not come to be part of making church happen, to be a community, because that is Not how church is done here in America for the the majority of churches. When church is done in a impersonal way how can we expect the people to be personal about church.

4. It would help if the Pastor would step out from the pulpit and do life with the people, do community with them. Not just show up like Elvis, do a show and leave the building, they must lead people into community by doing community. They must be like Jesus breaking bread and washing feet of their flock, living in community with them. Community will be encouraged to happen when pastors begin to have community with their people, lead the people into it. When he makes church something personal, about community so will others.

innovation3Here are some of my live tweets from the Innovation 3 conference. I really enjoyed it, got a lot out of it. There where a lot of things I heard, new directions people what to take church, way to do church that I totally disagreed with, but there was a lot of good things. Meet some really amazing people there, that am starting a relationship with. I also gained 20 new followers on my twitter account from it.

# Innovation 3 is over, was great, heard a lot of inspiring talks. Now go and do like wise, I say to myself, put feet to what I heard. 1:12 PM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Matt Carter: Jesus called disciples to Himself and He did two things: He called them to Himself and He called them to mission.” 12:54 PM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Neil Cole Every church will be judged by the quality of your disciples. relationships not programs are to be the focus. #I3 12:51 PM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Matt Chandler “Must decide and be confidant that the scriptures are sufficient; scriptures are THE story.” #i3 12:47 PM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Matt Chandler – effective cultural engagement requires gospel and doctrinal accuracy. #i3 12:40 PM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# John Jenkins – are you just doing church stuff or doing something that meets a need and builds the kingdom. #i3 12:38 PM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Neil Cole: “Jesus didn’t say you [people] will build the church. He said I [Jesus] will build my church.” 12:35 PM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# neil cole “When you realize who Jesus is you’ll do everything different.” #i3 12:34 PM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# India started decade at 2% Christian. by end of the decade it’ll be 10%. that’s equal to 80 million people. the US will end on a decline #i3… 12:12 PM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Greg Holder – I have heard too may people say they have been lied to in Jesus name, made promises not kept. #i3 12:01 PM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Reggie McNeal: #i3 “Jesus didn’t say, ‘I have come to give you church and give it more abundantly.'” 11:58 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# The Church being a connector–I just got goose bumps. 11:57 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# “Under the theology of the cross, we can take risks because we remove ourselves from the equation.” Mark Driscoll #i3 11:51 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# “Failure is not measured by success…but faithfulness.” Mark Driscoll #i3 11:51 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# “you may just fail. are you okay with that? You’ll still have Jesus, and that’s enough” Mark Driscoll #i3 11:50 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Nancy Ortberg, interview, It is easy to look at other peoples lives from the outside and not see their brokenness, we are all broken #i3 11:45 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# @charlestlee Loved your interview Charles, would love to spend a week, OK make it a year working next to you learning. 11:32 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox in reply to charlestlee
# dawn Nicole, teens are always a head of the curve on social media and its uses, they get it. #i3 11:29 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# dawn nicole – sharing how text messaging is a good 4 churches 2 use 2 reach other, even sermon notes during the service. #i3 11:27 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Going after un-churched, a mind set of just get people in to church. vs going after the unsaved, goal, getting people saved. #i3 11:19 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# only 3% of American churches are growing by conversion. Something very wrong, things must change!!! #i3 11:16 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# 80% of churches in America are plateaued or declining – John Bishop I3 11:14 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Charles Lee, Instead of putting on an event to get people to come 2 it, find where the people are and go there to them. #i3 11:11 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Charlest Lee, We want to listen first and found out what God is already doing, and then find creative ways to support it. #i3 11:06 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# #i3 Charlest Lee, God was at work in your community, the world before you, God is already at work, He just waiting for us to join Him 11:04 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# #i3 Charlest Lee founder of One being interviewed. Do not think I am bringing God to the community, but I am joining God in what He is doing 11:02 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Twitter, Facebook and other social media are the new frontier for both reaching and communicating with people. #i3 10:08 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# We need 2 partner with other churches & ministries. Join in what God is already doing. Chandler #i3 10:08 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Brake out groups. “In the church planting movement, it’s not about having enough money, it’s about leadership” @gregsurratt #i3 9:53 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Social justice apart from the gospel means you are the Peace Corps. Well said by Matt Carter @ # i3 9:32 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# “Whatever makes you cry, that’s where your calling is”. Stacy Spencer at innovation 3 9:27 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# the @innovation3 conference, on lunch break. 8:39 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# @DiscoveryHouse, yes, both are inner woven together, true discipleship happens by dong life together which must be done in unit. 8:32 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox in reply to DiscoveryHouse
# John Bishop #i3 Too many churches see people as a tool and not a part of God’s story. John has left the stage, worship band on stage. 8:29 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# #i3, I personal believe the US church focus on money is a sin, China the largest church in the world, that is exploding operates w/ no money 8:24 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# John Bishop #i3, We must listen to the HS as to who to speak to and what to say, we do not need to candy coat what we say just follow the HS 8:13 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Apologize in advance for all of the tweets; I’m live blogging the @innovation3 conference 8:12 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# John Bishop #i3, sometimes church plans trump God’s, not good. The church has become a country club. 8:10 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Bob Roberts #i3 the rest of the world church focuses on the Holy Spirit, the US church focuses on the pragmatics, money, buildings, programs 8:02 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Bob Roberts #i3, when we see in the news the bad stuff going on, that’s God saying ‘Over here church. 7:58 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Bob Roberts #i3, in the bible & China today, accepting Christ was a dangerous decision, they are ready to die for Christ, not just add Him 7:56 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Bob Roberts #i3, if we would follow the great commission we would turn the world upside down. What does it mean to make disciples? 7:54 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Bob Roberts #i3, the global church is exploding and they have none of our stuff, while the US church is declining, somethings wrong 7:51 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Bob Robers #i3, the global church is exploding and they have not of our stuff, while the US church is declining, somethings wrong 7:48 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Nancy Ortberg #i3 The US is no longer a church culture, so risk and innovation are a must. 7:44 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Nancy Ortberg #i3, Risk comes with failure , the biggest thing that stands in the way of innovation is fear. God says do not be fearful. 7:41 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Nancy Ortberg #i3, a good leader is never threaten by the gifts of other, but encourage them in using them to the fullest. 7:34 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Nancy Ortberg #i3, A Leader must be very educated in what the spiritual gifts are, and how to recognize them. 7:33 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Nancy Ortberg #i3, passion vs humbleness, you do not chose between the two, it is living in the tension between the two. 7:31 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Nancy Ortberg #i3, must learn to activate spiritual gifts with out elevating them.
# Nancy Ortberg #i3 is on stage now #i3, the Gospel is always provocative. leadership is more about managing tensions than solving problems. 7:28 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Eds Stetzer #i3, more ministry based evangelism will define the dangerous church. 7:24 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Eds Stetzer #i3, only 3.5% people in the last year have showed measurable spiritual growth. Churches must learn to network, work together. 7:22 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Eds Stetzer #i3, the reformed and emerging movement have same goal, define what is a evangelical church is. 7:19 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Eds Stetzer #i3, we are in a post seeker era, there are no seekers out there, church must drop the seeker format. 7:17 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Eds Stetzer #i3, Church must have a biblical church must have biblical justification for what it believes. 7:15 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Ed Stetzer #i3. Sexual brokenness is a big issue to be addressed, as well as porn. The church that does not address these things is out. 7:12 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Eds Stetzer What does a dangerous church look like? #i3 7:07 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Ed Stetzer taking the stage now, Marks of the biblical church, got to Love Ed #i3 7:06 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox
# Taking in Innovations 3 church leadership conference, worship just stating with Robbie Seay band. Looking forward 2 days sessions & speakers 6:56 AM Jan 28th from TwitterFox

obama-hope I was thinking yesterday as I watched the inauguration and heard interviews with people who where there. About how much this whole campaign for this election, and the whole Obama craze, fever shows just how much the church in America, and ultimately Christians have failed, dropped the ball. That in the country with the most Christians and churches. That the people of the country have to look to a man and the government for hope. Not look to Christ, not even to the church, because the church and Christians of this country have failed to lift up and present the true and only hope for them, Jesus, in a way that they can see that He is the only hope. Not only proclaim the gospel of real hope, but to have and show that hope in their own lives. They have not seen or heard anything in or from the church or seen anyting in the words and lives of Christians that would cause them to come to or seek out Jesus as the answer, believe He is The hope, the One to go to, the one who holds the future in His hands.

And with so many Christians and churches proclaiming Obama as the great hope for America and their lives, why would the unsaved look to Jesus when so many Christians and Church where looking to Obama as the great hope of the land. If Christians themselves put no trust, dependency in Jesus for their lives and future, why would others. If Christians and churches would have put the same passion and drive into proclaiming the gospel, Jesus, the country would have taken notice. If they would have put the same passion and fight into proclaiming Jesus as they did to change the abortion law, as they did for Pailn and McCain (as if they where the change we needed), maybe real change would be coming to America. The Hope Americans went to the poles voting for, the change they are hoping for on inaugural day, the answer for it is the best keep secret of the Church in America “Jesus”. Jesus is what they are looking for, need, but the church and Christians have not shown that He is, or shared that He is during the whole election campaign. The church failed on election day. It received a vote of no confidence by the people, because the church put the gospel under a basket, hid from even themselves.

We could not have ask for a more opportune time to proclaim Jesus, the only hope in the time of much needed hope, and the church let it pass us by. If we would have presented Christ in all his glory, did as good of a job proclaiming Christ as Obama did proclaiming himself, real change would be coming to America. The right man might have won the Presidency, but the people chose the wrong savior, put their hope in the wrong one.

No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him. 2Ti 2:4

Francis Chan made a recent post that all I can say is he hit it on the head, read my mind and said what’s in my heart. I could not have said it any better.

“Is there any logic in believing that God started His Church as a Spirit-filled, loving body with the intention that it would evolve into entertaining, hour-long services? Was he hoping that one day people would be attracted to the Church not because they care for one another, not because they are devoted to Him, not because the supernatural occurs in their midst, but because of good music and entertainment?”

Try to imagine what conclusions you would come to if you had no prior church experience. The things in church services might make sense to the American church-attendee, but they don’t make sense biblically.

Picture yourself on an island with only a Bible. You’ve never been to a church-you’ve never even heard of one. The only ideas you have about church are what you’ve read in your Bible. Then you enter a building labeled “church” for the first time. What would you expect to experience as you entered that building? Now compare that to what you actually experience when you attend church.”

The question is would you except what you would find in the church as a substitute for what you saw in the bible? Or demand the real deal, hold out for, keep looking for the biblical church?

“Something real was happing in the early Church. It was something of the Spirit, too powerful to be replicated by human effort. Imagine taking a friend to one of their church gatherings. Your friend might not experience a smoothly run, professional service. But one thing he would experience: God. Do we even need to ask which is better? So much of church growth today has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit. The right team of talented people can make any church grow. When people sit through creative services, is it really God they’re experiencing?

I’m just asking you to be willing to rethink what you’re doing and ask: How can we create a more biblical environment where people see and experience God?”

Read the full interview here

preach470How is it today that the preaching the Gospel has come to be reserved to pastors behind the pulpit and inside the walls of a church building! When it was never meant to be confined to a building, Jesus taught His followers something quite different, to proclaim it everywhere they go, even from the rooftop.

What if pastors like Mark Driscoll, John Piper, Pete Wilson, Perry Noble, Miles McPherson and Francis Chan, took their gift of teaching and passion for preaching out into the world, to those who really need to hear the message of the Kingdom of God? What if all pastors like these awesome teachers uses their gift the way the disciples and Paul did among the lost just as did some of the greatest preachers of old like Charles Spurgeon, Dwight Moody, John Wesley and so many others. These great preachers went where the people where and didn’t stay within the four walls of the church building!

The only preacher that I know about personally today who even comes close is Greg Laurie who regularly does his Harvest Crusades. Reaching 10’s of thousands with the gospel. He has use his gift outside the walls of the church building, but I am not thinking of just something that grand in a stadium, but something done daily in every day places as well.

So this is my challenge to pastors and all like the greatly gifted pastors above who can deliver the gospel so effectively. What if we went back to the likes pastor of the past like above. These men of the pulpit that spent their week days and nights in the bars, social halls, dining halls, school campuses and street corners preaching the gospel. And then where in the pulpit of a church on Sunday filled with the repented sinners they reach preaching outside the church that week. They spent their days about what they knew to be the real business of church, reaching the lost, perching to the lost where ever they where. Like Jesus, the disciples and Paul they went into he world, where the lost are.

I challenge you all to spend your week, every week out and about proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Not where all the Christians are, not even with the un-churched Christians are but rather where the un-believers are, the unsaved sinners, the God haters, the drunks, the harlots, the gang members, everywhere anywhere the lost are, anywhere they gather.

Let history read your life story like the great pastors of old, how you empted the streets, the bars into the church buildings.

blessittArthur Blessitt is evangelist who back in the 70’s became famous world wide when in 1969 he carried a 12 foot wood cross for Jesus around the world. He walking across all seven continents including Antarctica, through 315 countries. He was second only to Bill Graham as the most well know evangelist in the world then. Thousands upon thousands of people came to Christ from his direct witnessing to them on his journeys and his everyday life back in Hollywood where he lived.

I read in one of his books years ago that when he was speaking at a bible college a student asked him what was the secret for so many salvations, leading so many people to Christ? He answered quite simply “I share Jesus Christ, the Gospel with every single living soul I encounter everyday, bar none.” He had determined very early in his life he wanted to live for Jesus, as Jesus did, and fulfill the great commission as Jesus commanded His followers to do. That resulted in a life that saw tens of thousands come to Christ.

But sadly I have to say in the last 10 years I could count on my hand the number of people I have known or even met who have lead someone to the Lord. And when ever I have brought up the subject of sharing Christ with others it brings strong opposition to doing such a thing. What I here is “I believe in friendship evangelism” Not that sharing Jesus or the Gospel with them type of evangelism, not that old school stuff.

But I would have to say that plan is not working! Has not worked over the last 10-15 years. Going back years before that when I was at Calvary and sharing Jesus and the gospel was a deliberate act, a way of life for Christians. When Christians lived like Arthur actively sharing Christ with others, straight out proclaiming the Gospel, talking about Jesus. Everyone I knew or met at church could testify of people coming to Christ on a weekly bases.

I think we need to once again become like Arthur Blessitt, or more precise, get back to living like Jesus and fulfilling the great commission, start sharing Jesus and the gospel outright as a way of life with every person we encounter every day, without exception.

We need to step out and take hold of the great commission and share the gospel. To begin each day asking the lord for both boldness and souls. Take Arthur’s advice and share Jesus with everyone we meet.

Pray the prayer of John Knox, “Give me Scotland or I die” only fill in our neighborhood, city, or “souls” period. I know that is where I want to be, to start living like Arhur, like Jesus said to, live to fulfill the great commission, to share Jesus, the gospel with everyone I encounter daily, in both deeds and words.

A simple test, ask yourself how many people have you shared Jesus, the gospel with in the last month, year? How many people have you lead to Christ in the last year, five, ten years? If the answer in none, obviously what you are doing is not working, bearing fruit.

And before you make excuses for not doing so, remember, Arthur’s life proved that if you share the gospel with everyone, every person you meet, leading people to Christ can be a daily event. If you go back before the days of “friendship evangelism” started, to the 70’s and 80’s they proved that when Christians live openly sharing Jesus, leading people to Christ can be a weekly event. I think the answer is we are to do both, befriend unbelievers with the intent of sharing Christ, but also openly proclaim the Gospel to everyone we meet daily. Something to think about.

Converts to What? – EdStetzer.com. Writes Stetzer:

I continue to see movements gaining traction among Christians that do not seem to have many converts. In other words, they have recruits to their cause, but few converts to Christ. And, I am concerned. I am concerned that in the name of “fixing the Church” we are not proclaiming the Church’s gospel.

… So, my Reformed friends, let’s not only read 1st, 2nd, and 3rd John (that is, John Calvin, John MacArthur, and John Piper), let’s go plant some more churches. My emerging church friends, let’s take a pause from the theological rethink and head into the neighborhood and to tell someone about Jesus. My missional friends, let’s speak of justice, but always tell others how God can be both “just and justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.” My house church friends, let’s have community, but let’s be sure it is one focused on redemption. My Baptist friends, let’s focus more on convincing pagans than Presbyterians. And, my charismatic friends, let’s focus less on getting existing believers to speak in tongues and more on using our tongue to tell others about Jesus …

If you want to convince me (and the body of Christ) to your cause, you must show me it is a better way. You must tell and show something different. You must not just protest what is, but you must show me what should be.

Books I would reckomend to everyone to read.

Total Church

 

Total Church – This small manual for doing church was surprisingly insightful and winsome to me. They cover a wide range of topics that are all essential for healthy church life. I love the focus on Gospel and community. This is must read for all church leaders.

the-mission-of-god

 

The Mission of God – What is God’s agenda in the world? You’ll find it clearly and exhaustively articulated in this tome from Dr. Chris Wright. I would say this book should also be required reading for all Christians. A bit longer than most want to tackle, but the blessing will be enormous. Those of us who are passionate about the gospel will want to consume this book as it convincingly articulates God’s heartbeat from cover to cover of the Bible.

deathbylove1

Death By Love – I have not actually read this book yet (on the list for 2009), but I have read enough excerpts to know that this book is certainly one that you will want to pick up and check out. Mark shows how the gospel applies to a variety of different and challenging pastoral situations.